Opened 10 years ago

Closed 9 years ago

#4882 closed bug (fixed)

"Haiku Operating System" Occurrences

Reported by: bonefish Owned by: leavengood
Priority: normal Milestone: R1/alpha2
Component: Website/CMS Version: R1/alpha1
Keywords: Cc:
Blocked By: Blocking:
Has a Patch: no Platform: All

Description

The website (http://www.haiku-os.org/) has several occurrences of "Haiku Operating System" (at least in the window title and the main heading/logo). The name of the operating system is simply "Haiku". Our own website really shouldn't support the proliferation of the incorrect name "Haiku OS" -- it's bad enough that the domain name is haiku-os.org. The occurrences should be replaced by either just "Haiku" or something like "Haiku -- The Operating System".

Change History (16)

comment:1 Changed 10 years ago by jprostko

I had to recently correct somebody using "Haiku OS" on their website. My advice was to change it to "Haiku", and I went on explaining why. Basically, it comes down to the fact that you don't go around saying "Windows OS" or "Linux OS", but you would be fine saying "BeOS", "ReactOS", or "SkyOS" due to those being the actual names. I think using "operating system" is fine if both words begin lower case, and the phrase is used in the course of a sentence, but not if both words begin capitalized or the phrase "Haiku operating system" is used standalone.

So yeah, here's how I see it...

Invalid forms:

HaikuOS Haiku OS Haiku Operating System <-- or variants like the one atop our home page Haiku operating system <-- when used standalone

Valid forms:

Haiku Haiku operating system <-- when used in the course of a sentence

comment:2 Changed 10 years ago by jprostko

Hmm, my comment looked fine in the preview, but got some carriage returns disappeared upon submission, it seems.

To summarize:

Invalid forms: "HaikuOS", "Haiku OS", or "Haiku Operating System". "Haiku operating system" is also invalid when used standalone.

Valid forms: "Haiku" is preferred. "Haiku operating system" is alright when used in the context of a sentence.

comment:3 Changed 10 years ago by koki

Unfortunately you cannot use lowercase in page titles (or any other titles, for that matter, such as the title of a talk for example), as the rule of title capitalization applies in English. The alternative would be to remove the "operating system" part of the page title, but it would have other repercussions in terms of SEO and association of the word Haiku with an operating system. I am open to suggestions.

Now, those instances that are not titles could be changed; but since the website does not have a find and replace feature, it is going to be a very tedious and I don't know how long it would take to do.

Perhaps if our team of web editors would help (there are 15 people with editing permissions), it could be done faster. hint hint

comment:4 in reply to:  3 ; Changed 10 years ago by leavengood

Replying to koki:

Perhaps if our team of web editors would help (there are 15 people with editing permissions), it could be done faster. hint hint

I'm willing to help on this. Is there a database dump of the web-site available somewhere, that might help in at least giving us some idea of what needs to be changed? I suspect there aren't too many instances of this though. But it is really hard to know without checking every page...

comment:5 in reply to:  4 Changed 10 years ago by koki

Replying to leavengood:

I'm willing to help on this. Is there a database dump of the web-site available somewhere, that might help in at least giving us some idea of what needs to be changed? I suspect there aren't too many instances of this though. But it is really hard to know without checking every page...

Just do a search for "Haiku operating system" and you will get the list of nodes that contain the string; from there you can then modify one node at a time.

comment:6 Changed 10 years ago by nielx

Owner: changed from haiku-web to leavengood

No pressure ;-)

comment:7 Changed 10 years ago by leavengood

With some "push" from Niels I have started on this. For reference I edited the following documents, which were results from this search:

http://www.haiku-os.org/search/node/Haiku%20Operating%20System

http://www.haiku-os.org/about/faq
http://www.haiku-os.org/community
http://www.haiku-os.org/about/haiku_inc
http://www.haiku-os.org/development/icon-guidelines

The rest were news items or blog posts, which IMO should not be edited. Now that only leaves the OPERATING SYSTEM text in the header of the page template. I am not sure if we wanted to remove that or not.

If anyone knows of other pages that still say Haiku Operating System please leave a comment.

comment:8 Changed 9 years ago by mmadia

Any comments in regards to the editing the title of www.haiku-os.org from "Haiku Project | Home of the Haiku Operating System" to "Haiku Project | Home of Haiku, The Operating System" ?

comment:9 Changed 9 years ago by mmadia

Any thoughts on replacing HaikuOS? This seems to be common in forum posts and comments.

comment:10 Changed 9 years ago by umccullough

Eh, I don't really like the way it sounds, it doesn't flow well, and honestly the way it is currently written sounds better when said.

Maybe we could at least lowercase Operating System to operating system to designate that it's not part of the name.

comment:11 Changed 9 years ago by humdinger

How about: "Haiku - your free desktop operating system". Or is that too much info?

comment:12 Changed 9 years ago by mmadia

Milestone: R1R1/alpha2

Moving this to R1/Alpha2, as it'd be nice to resolve by then.

What about "Haiku Project | Home of the Operating System Haiku" ?

comment:13 Changed 9 years ago by leavengood

I don't think we should go about trying to replace all occurrences of HaikuOS or "Haiku Operating System" in forum posts or blog entries. Maybe in old news items, but in general I would only want to change it in the somewhat static pages, which I'm pretty sure I already did.

That just leaves the title of the site. I kind of like Humdinger's suggestion. Or Matt's, but with sentence case (hey it works in the Haiku GUI):

"Haiku Project | Home of the operating system Haiku"

Though if we were to vote I'd probably for for Humdinger's. Frankly maybe I should just take the bull by the horns and change it. Or send a message to haiku-web.

comment:14 Changed 9 years ago by koki

Component: WebsiteWebsite/CMS

Haiku has already gained a lot of recognition among the intended target audience (geeks, developers, hobbyists, open source advocates, etc.). At this stage of raised awareness of the Haiku brand, I think emphasis on associating the brand name with an OS is not that important anymore.

That being the case, my recommendation to if not totally avoid at least alleviate the problem pointed out by Ingo would be to remove the "OPERATING SYSTEM" tagline to the right of the logo, and to make the title of the home page simply "Haiku Project | Home".

comment:15 Changed 9 years ago by leavengood

I have edited the site title to just make it "Home | Haiku Project" (which mimics all the other pages), but I don't see an obvious way to change the theme on the home page to remove the OPERATING SYSTEM text. I suppose I need access to the actual file system, but I'm not an admin. So if someone who is an admin with access to the server is listening, please edit the theme to remove that.

comment:16 Changed 9 years ago by mmadia

Resolution: fixed
Status: newclosed

"OPERATING SYSTEM" was removed from the 'Slogan' field on the site-information page. To note, the copyright years were also updated.

Closing the ticket. IIRC this was the last offense of directly associating "OS" or "Operating System" with "Haiku". There may be some references in comments and forum postings.

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